I'm probably just repeating myself but over and over there are generals with real war experience, Shinseki, Zinni, Clarke, Shallavalaski (sp?) all backing Kerry, another retired Air Force general (cannot find the name right now) just came out and blistered Bush today.
So we have some of his fellow Swift Boat comanders blasting Kerry. While large majority of those have no direct knowledge or experience fughting with him (most Swift Boat ops were solo or in small groups like two to three), they are certainly entitled to their opinion.
IMO, the crew members who had their lives in his hands are the best source of his competency and judgement and they are solidly behind him.
The final irony of all this is that all the Republicans bitch that Kerry shouldn't parade his military service from 30 years ago cause it's not relevant to this election but simultaneously engage in smear tactics to discredit his very record from 30 years ago.
But what do you expect from these draft dodging, neocon, chickenhawk clowns?
So we have some of his fellow Swift Boat comanders blasting Kerry. While large majority of those have no direct knowledge or experience fughting with him (most Swift Boat ops were solo or in small groups like two to three), they are certainly entitled to their opinion.
IMO, the crew members who had their lives in his hands are the best source of his competency and judgement and they are solidly behind him.
The final irony of all this is that all the Republicans bitch that Kerry shouldn't parade his military service from 30 years ago cause it's not relevant to this election but simultaneously engage in smear tactics to discredit his very record from 30 years ago.
But what do you expect from these draft dodging, neocon, chickenhawk clowns?
Here's a pretty solid reply I got in an email today:
So sad, the last gasp of a dying political machine.
These swift boat vets have been debunked for what they are, a GOP funded partisan group led by former Nixon political hack John O'Neill. http://mediamatters.org/items/200405040004 There are also charges that the group was illegally funded by Tom Delay's campaign. There is an active ethic complaint in the house but we'll have to depend on the State of Texas to handle it because congress isn't likely to investigate Delay while the GOP hold majority. Sad http://www.duckstrap.com/swiftboatveteransfortruth_debunked.php
When I was in the first Gulf War some guys got more medals than me and some got less. There was an element of jealously, or maybe it was just natural competition who knows, around all of it when it all came out after the war, not much but it was there then. The bottom line is the guys on the boat with him, all of them, the Green Beret whose life he saved have all come out and attested to his bravery under fire and his fitness for Command. None of the "swiftboaters" in the book served on his boat. Its was just jealous superiors who became so after his antiwar stance and the fact he turned out to be so successful as a Liberal Politician. His did his duty before and after the war. Additionally, what about all those Generals and Admirals, most of whom served under Bush, that are behind Kerry, that stood up for him at the Convention last week. You forgot to mention them.
Just for fun lets compare his military career against dumbya's.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2004/02/02_400.html
..and here's an article the sets the record straight on Kerry's Defense votes. He in many cases was voting with the GOP who were trying to save the first George's presidency by capitalizing on the "Peace Dividend". I particularly like the Cheney quote from when he was SecDef .."You've directed me to buy more M-1s, F-14s, and F-16s—all great systems … but we have enough of them." The Dems should be hammering these guys with this on Cheney being soft on defense but they are doing a good job of keeping their head above the fray.
So sad, the last gasp of a dying political machine.
These swift boat vets have been debunked for what they are, a GOP funded partisan group led by former Nixon political hack John O'Neill. http://mediamatters.org/items/200405040004 There are also charges that the group was illegally funded by Tom Delay's campaign. There is an active ethic complaint in the house but we'll have to depend on the State of Texas to handle it because congress isn't likely to investigate Delay while the GOP hold majority. Sad http://www.duckstrap.com/swiftboatveteransfortruth_debunked.php
When I was in the first Gulf War some guys got more medals than me and some got less. There was an element of jealously, or maybe it was just natural competition who knows, around all of it when it all came out after the war, not much but it was there then. The bottom line is the guys on the boat with him, all of them, the Green Beret whose life he saved have all come out and attested to his bravery under fire and his fitness for Command. None of the "swiftboaters" in the book served on his boat. Its was just jealous superiors who became so after his antiwar stance and the fact he turned out to be so successful as a Liberal Politician. His did his duty before and after the war. Additionally, what about all those Generals and Admirals, most of whom served under Bush, that are behind Kerry, that stood up for him at the Convention last week. You forgot to mention them.
Just for fun lets compare his military career against dumbya's.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2004/02/02_400.html
..and here's an article the sets the record straight on Kerry's Defense votes. He in many cases was voting with the GOP who were trying to save the first George's presidency by capitalizing on the "Peace Dividend". I particularly like the Cheney quote from when he was SecDef .."You've directed me to buy more M-1s, F-14s, and F-16s—all great systems … but we have enough of them." The Dems should be hammering these guys with this on Cheney being soft on defense but they are doing a good job of keeping their head above the fray.
